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Okay, so we're looking for new League maps.

Postby nerd-boy » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:55 pm

The time has come to cycle through the league maps again.

What I want you people to do, is to name up to two (2) maps total that you feel do not deserve to be in a leauge. Make sure to explain why, and please specify which leagues they do not deserve to be in (if in more than one league).

You may also name up to five (5) maps that you feel deserve to be in the leagues. Please bear in mind that none of these maps can be made by you. If you self-plug your own map, I will invalidate your entire list. This is because if given the opportunity, people will plug their own maps, due to personal bias. Explanations here are recommended, but not required.

The rest of the map committee and myself will decide what maps to use based on the suggestions here, and what we like.
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Postby nerd-boy » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:04 pm

Maps to add:

[url=http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=37815]Image
The Smoking Eye[/url] (map made by funwes). I feel that the three separated-yet-connected fronts help make the map more open, and 3 airports per side helps encourage an air battle.

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Bends[/url] (map made by maq). The base placement looks pretty cool, and I think it would add a lot of variety.

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Demon Days[/url] (map made by BlackStorm).

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Salmon Potato Squid Elephant Panda Traffic Squirrel Cardboard Parrot Battleship Donkey[/url] (map made by Everzwijn). I think it's got a rather original concept behind it--not often do you find maps with 5 bases per side, and it looks like it works out fairly nicely. It may be a little on the big side, but if we stick it in the Speed League, there probably won't be much of a problem in that respect.

Maps to remove:

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Deserted Beach[/url] (map made by nerd-boy). Leagues 2, 3. It seems to get clogged up a lot along the fronts, which probably isn't the best for a league map to do. Besides, it's had a fairly good run.

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The Pauper Has An Agenda[/url] (map made by Tyrael). Leagues 4, 6, 7. I think it suffers from the main problem Pheasant had, which was that the map was a rush to the center neutral bases. That doesn't sit very well with me.
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Postby Tyrael » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:41 pm

Add:

Image Tonight we dine in Restaraunts
I like the factory placements. It's a bit big, but I can see this being in the Speed League.

Image Let's Mok Tyrael Land
Small and simple. Lots of little fronts seperated by a mountain or two.

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ImageThe Pheasant Has No Agenda ~REMIX~
The Pheasant still has FTA.
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Postby DuelStriker » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:17 pm

Pheasant is still listed as a league map under most of the leagues, but I'm pretty sure it's removed (Smacky removed it, I thought)
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Postby sulla » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:43 pm

My maps are the best. If I cant plug them posting in here is pointless.

(Just kidding)
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Postby psycho guy » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:25 am

remove: all bad maps
these maps are bad

add: good maps
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Postby benbever » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:36 pm

Don't cycle too much, I like more league maps better than few league maps. That said, do remove the maps that are not as good as the other ones.

Remove:

All maps with pheasants, paupers and/or agendas in their name.

Add:

Piddle Death
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Logistics Lite (although it could use a test game)
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Don't add yet:

Demon Days, it has had no (test)games, and it might have contested bases (especially sturm thinks so) so it might want a playtest.

Salmon Potato Squid Elephant Panda Traffic Squirrel Cardboard Parrot Battleship Donkey, it has seen only one (test)game, but looks fairly complated. Also it's very big and has 5 bases. If it gets in the leagues, please don't add it to the speed league. That size and 5 bases means a _lot_ of units to move per turn, and I don't want that in my boot=2 game.
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Postby Kamuscha » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:24 pm

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Postby sulla » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:43 am

Just get rid of objectiveness. I would be happy never to play on that map ever again.
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Postby EchelonThree » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:21 am

My opinions

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http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=22481
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Comotion - Good map with nice fronts, encouraging flank play more

http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=38064
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North Star - Great map overall

http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=16417
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Sublock Bridge - Nice map, it's like a mini-dizziness


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http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=10105
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The Pheasant has No Fairness

http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=10419
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Mind Trap - It's bland.
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Mind Trap

Postby sulla » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:05 am

I like this map a lot, but Is it really S ranked? In fact what map deserves to be S ranked if any? The four S ranked maps dont look any better than A ranked maps. I think the S rank category is a bit useless, and might be needed to be removed.

http://awbw.amarriner.com/categories.ph ... ries_id=15

These four maps all look like A rankers to me.

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Postby Sothis » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:54 am

Objectiveness kicks ass. It's one of the only maps on the entire site that's a fair, small 1v1 map that requires lots of navy battle.
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Postby benbever » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:20 am

Mind trap is fine, I like it. (It is indeed not better than A-rank maps, but that's offtopic.)

Remove: The Pauper has an agenda, I'm getting a bunch of games on it :( and I don't like contested bases league maps.

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xfactor by Taz, cause it's a lot of fun :)
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Postby Kamuscha » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:43 pm

Max vs Nell is fun indeed.

choke/open maps are good as well
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MY opinion

Postby blanci1 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:51 pm

if a map is reasonably fair and playable and looks ... reasonable ... its ok by me . I have few problems with maps. I believe good generals should strive to cope with all and varied kinds of maps and conditions. I dont mind maps that "might" be drawn ... if its not really obvious how to draw, its fine by me.
So, i would only remove very tired maps, where openings are completely well known , especially where opening knowledge confers a significant advantage. I havent been around leagues long enough to say which maps are tired.

RECOMMEND ADDING TO FOG LEAGUE

1. Centipede
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=37338

2. Bloxx
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=37096

3. Churning seas
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=33131

4. Pyroclasm
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=37652
----------- i dont know if its been tested??

5. Yin and Yang
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=38566

i would submit the following as a substitute
This is One strange place
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=38445

i would have liked to add chaos city too but its got a bit of FTA though i dont think its very much, it just needs a simple correction. I could re-make the map but then i wouldnt be allowed to submit it anyway.
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